tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5222101907210941253.post114023229438613834..comments2023-09-06T09:41:32.189-04:00Comments on Meeting Jesus / Finding Peace: Preparing for Yearly MeetingBillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17063175711541546350noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5222101907210941253.post-18753507811293234072010-01-23T21:06:42.477-05:002010-01-23T21:06:42.477-05:00Bill, what is the basis of WYM's "recordi...Bill, what is the basis of WYM's "recording" of a minister?<br /><br />I ask because traditionally in the RSoF, a minister's anointing was seen as being conferred by the Holy Spirit. The act of recording or recognizing a minister was merely a public acknowledgement of the workings of the Holy Spirit within a gifted individual. An individual could be disowned, but otherwise the ministerial anointing of the Holy Spirit would stay with him for life, so long as he remained a member. <br /><br />If WYM is capable of revoking the ministerial status of a member, what does that say about the role of the Holy Spirit in the original recording? Was the Spirit wrong? Were the WYM committees mistaken in recognizing the anointing of the Holy Spirit? Do I just misunderstand what it is WYM considers to be a minister?kevin robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07336902422644197456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5222101907210941253.post-59439276727863923932009-07-12T15:53:36.737-04:002009-07-12T15:53:36.737-04:00"This has generated more heat than light.&quo..."This has generated more heat than light."<br />In such a situation great care must be taken with processes, and Jim is facing a tough job. I think it is important to review the fact that it is a meeting for worship and that each person <i>must</i> be open to ministry from others and not be there to carry out an agenda. For that reason, special attention needs to be given to allowing time for each expression to be absorbed <i>as</i> ministry and not merely reacted to. I hope preparation along these lines has been or will be seriously noted in each separate Monthly Meeting, as well as stressed at the Meeting for Business.<br />I can't really speak to your perceptions of what underlies the particular situation, as it appears to be a simple question of orthodoxy and I have not been able to find out what are the points of "substantial disunity" with stated perceptions in WYM Faith and Practice. I don't even know if all the participants are in agreement that there <i>is</i> substantial disunity. Once that question is answered, the other elements may certainly come into play.<br />I will certainly be praying that Light be able to find its way into every heart involved.<br /><br />In His Love,<br />Nate SwiftNatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07004334102672210987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5222101907210941253.post-56068173955974675032009-07-09T18:24:37.802-04:002009-07-09T18:24:37.802-04:00I found your website through QuakerQuaker, and for...I found your website through <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org" rel="nofollow">QuakerQuaker</a>, and for two weeks I've known about the upcoming sessions that will address Phil Gulley's recording.<br /><br />I'm a Conservative-leaning Friend who is learning over and over again about standing in the Cross between being faithful and being loving.<br /><br />I worry that in your post, there is so little about the place of God's love and Christ's authority in this matter. I worry that within the Religious Society of Friends--whether Liberal, Conservative, United, or Evangelical--that the American secular convention of individualism is undermining our ability or even desire to lay aside our personal preferences and "good ideas" in order to listen for the loving guidance of the Spirit.<br /><br />What about new Light? What about being willing to be changed and transformed by the Inward Teacher? <br /><br />I continue to hold Western Yearly Meeting and the situation in prayer. I can tell that a number of Friends are suffering the Cross and have been for some time.<br /><br />Thanks for asking for prayers so openly.<br /><br />Blessings,<br />Liz Opp, <a href="http://thegoodraisedup.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">The Good Raised Up</a>Liz Opphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09802348848085930901noreply@blogger.com